Black Man

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  Barbara Anderson article - outstanding!

  by waiting in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  mikepence posted this article over at bboy's forum and it's well worth bringing over here.

  if i offend anyone - it's not my intention.

  it is my intention to continue with helping to shed new light on this hideous crime.

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  Black Man

  Excellent article. This goes back to the top.............
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  Any Brooklyn Bethelites from '93 - '98?

  by back2dafront in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess i should introduce myself for i am a new poster-boy :-) my name is jason howard and i currently reside in santa cruz, california.

  i spent the first 24 years of my life as a jw, starting in danbury, ct, then to fayetteville & charlotte, nc, and finally brooklyn, bethel, where finally all of my negative inner thoughts and feelings were confirmed.

  (from the ages of 14-24 i always felt something just didn't add up with the organization, but i could never quite put a finger on it) i spent my career at bethel in the brooklyn warehouse/purchasing departments and worked with some really great individuals.

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  Most cool Jw leader ?

  by haujobbz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thinkin about all the jw leaders back to the very roots of jws starting i was trying to think who was the genuine and truthful of the lot who could it have been:.

  charles taze russell.

  rutherford.

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  Black Man

  I'm not so sure what you mean about "most cool" jw leader, but I'll say that Russell seemed to be the most sincere. I'll also say that from a marketing standpoint Knorr was probably the most saavy in coming up with some bright ideas at the time in setting up TMS schools and other programs.
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  1975---- DID IT REALLY BOTHER YOU?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on the net you see many talk about 1975 and how it affected so many.

  obviously, some left the organization when nothing happened in 1975. were you personally affected by 1975?

  has the fixing of dates been a major reason for your disappointment with the witnesses?

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  1975---- DID IT REALLY BOTHER YOU?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on the net you see many talk about 1975 and how it affected so many.

  obviously, some left the organization when nothing happened in 1975. were you personally affected by 1975?

  has the fixing of dates been a major reason for your disappointment with the witnesses?

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  Black Man

  I was pretty young back in '75 but remember it vividly. This one brother in my congo bought up PHAT mansion complete with tennis court and swimming pool, maxed out a few cards and such. Hey after all the Big 'A' was gonna drop in the fall of '75....right? Anyhow, when '75 came and went, the brother eventually fell DEEP into alcoholism and around '78-79 left the org. I remember attendance at the congo droppin' off. We would get nearly 300 every Sunday. It dropped down to a little under 200 the following couple of years.

  What really trips me out about the whole '75 fiasco is that TRUE, the Society never CLEARLY stated IN PRINT that Armageddon was gonna come in '75. But they know damn well a strong IMPLICATION was made by the whole 6,000 year anniversary for man would be marked by a significant event (all that nonsense really got in full swing around '68-69). What really created even more of a stir was idiot-ass Bethelites and Circuit/Overseers who were going around speculating in public talks how '75 was gonna be the year. So of course all the easily led brain-dead JW's are gonna take what bro. bethelite/co/do says and treat it as law.

  It just trips me out when you read articles in the Watchtower that talk about "how some have speculated on the time of the end" as if the Society had nothing to do with it when they know damn well Bethel speakers were going around (publicly) planning their Armageddon parties.
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  Any Brooklyn Bethelites from '93 - '98?

  by back2dafront in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess i should introduce myself for i am a new poster-boy :-) my name is jason howard and i currently reside in santa cruz, california.

  i spent the first 24 years of my life as a jw, starting in danbury, ct, then to fayetteville & charlotte, nc, and finally brooklyn, bethel, where finally all of my negative inner thoughts and feelings were confirmed.

  (from the ages of 14-24 i always felt something just didn't add up with the organization, but i could never quite put a finger on it) i spent my career at bethel in the brooklyn warehouse/purchasing departments and worked with some really great individuals.

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  Black Man

  Lisa,

  Can't say that I recognize those names although Mark Nadolny sounds vaguely familiar.
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  Should I Go To College?

  by joeshmoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  like a typical witness goody-goody-two-shoes, i eschewed college in favor of "theocratic pursuits" when i was a teen (i.e.

  over 5 yrs at bethel).

  now, at age 26, with my eyes opened and purged of the witness insanity, im thinking about college again.

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  Black Man

  Hey Joe,

  DO THE COLLEGE THING, MAN. When I left Bethel I had various skills and aptitude but no degree left me behind in a lot of ways that only now am I catching up to. Musto is right about all those years of non-reportable income. You should be able to get aid. Flood the market with scholarship applications and student loan apps. Be prepared to be focused for about 3-4 years to start and finish the college thing. Don't way another few years. You're still fairly young and unattached. The dynamics completely change when your family circumstances change.
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  Any Brooklyn Bethelites from '93 - '98?

  by back2dafront in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess i should introduce myself for i am a new poster-boy :-) my name is jason howard and i currently reside in santa cruz, california.

  i spent the first 24 years of my life as a jw, starting in danbury, ct, then to fayetteville & charlotte, nc, and finally brooklyn, bethel, where finally all of my negative inner thoughts and feelings were confirmed.

  (from the ages of 14-24 i always felt something just didn't add up with the organization, but i could never quite put a finger on it) i spent my career at bethel in the brooklyn warehouse/purchasing departments and worked with some really great individuals.

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  Black Man

  Mike,

  Key Foods.....now those were the days. I would go there if someone slipped me some "greenbacks" on the tour route........
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  Any Brooklyn Bethelites from '93 - '98?

  by back2dafront in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess i should introduce myself for i am a new poster-boy :-) my name is jason howard and i currently reside in santa cruz, california.

  i spent the first 24 years of my life as a jw, starting in danbury, ct, then to fayetteville & charlotte, nc, and finally brooklyn, bethel, where finally all of my negative inner thoughts and feelings were confirmed.

  (from the ages of 14-24 i always felt something just didn't add up with the organization, but i could never quite put a finger on it) i spent my career at bethel in the brooklyn warehouse/purchasing departments and worked with some really great individuals.

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  Black Man

  Speaking of R-rated movies....do you remember the video rental shop on Montague street? You know the one that would double as a spider's web for brothers trying to rent R-rated movies? The society used to get a monthly check list from them to check on what movies the Bethelites were renting. Many a brother was talked to and sent back home because he rented an R-rated movie. And Bethel was full of lushes..........The figure may be even higher than the 50% that you gave.
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  Any Brooklyn Bethelites from '93 - '98?

  by back2dafront in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i guess i should introduce myself for i am a new poster-boy :-) my name is jason howard and i currently reside in santa cruz, california.

  i spent the first 24 years of my life as a jw, starting in danbury, ct, then to fayetteville & charlotte, nc, and finally brooklyn, bethel, where finally all of my negative inner thoughts and feelings were confirmed.

  (from the ages of 14-24 i always felt something just didn't add up with the organization, but i could never quite put a finger on it) i spent my career at bethel in the brooklyn warehouse/purchasing departments and worked with some really great individuals.

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  Black Man

  Hey Jason & Joe Schmoe,

  I probably know you two. I was there the exact same years (93-98). I spent a lot of time at the Factory and at 360 Furman so I knew guys like Ralph Walls, John Larson, Fred Curry, David Wilson who were heavies in the Factory and/or Furman. Also did time in the Bindery, Printing, & Cleaning Departments. Yeah, Bethel was something else wasn't it? Sittin' at morning worship at 7:00a.m. chuggin' down granola and oatmeal (yuk), trying to decipher what the hell Karl Klein was saying, listening to ambitious mufuckas talk about how their big goal in life is to be a table head, working your ass off on the plantation and having it validated by a $90-a-month salary, handing over said $90-a-month salary to pay for our phone bill and subway tokens. I can go on and on.

  Bethel does clear away those rose colored glasses that you were sporting when you came in all bright eyed and bushy tailed from your home. I'll try and email you guys sometime this week and reflect on the memories.